NBN SCAM CALLS

I received 3 phone calls yesterday supposedly from NBN trying to arrange for a “technician” to call with a new modem and advising that the “old” modem/connection box will stop working in 7 days.

With any new scam, I try to lead them on to find out what the angle is. Alas, I am not as skilled as those YouTube people who can lead them on for hours.

By what I can make out, they must be calling numbers in suburbs earmarked for the FTTP roll out. Refer my previous post https://whysun.com/computers-and-the-internet/nbn-upgrade-to-fttp/

First up, you can hardly understand them – thick foreign accents. But they start by telling you that your old modem / NBN Connection Box will stop working in 7 days and you need a new model. Then they try to arrange a time for a technician to call with the new modem. I haven’t managed to get past this point, but I bet that once they have made a time for a “technician” to call they will then start asking for money / personal information / banking information.

REMEMBER NBN WILL NOT CALL YOU See https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/protect-yourself-from-scams – From this page

· nbn will not call to confirm an appointment and ask for payment to secure your booking, or ask you to pay the postage costs for new hardware.

If you want to be kept up to date, subscribe to the NBN news letter using this link

https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/fttp-upgrade-with-higher-speed-tiers

Under – Check to see if you can upgrade to nbn’s fast fibre today – Type in your address and check – after which, a section will appear for an email address.

NBN Upgrade to FTTP

 

NBN – National Broadband Network – Types of connections in order of performance :

  1. FTTP  – Fibre to the Premises
  2. HFC     – Hybrid Fibre Coaxial                                                                             
  3. FTTB   – Fibre to the Building
  4. FTTC   – Fibre to the Curb
  5. FTTN   – Fibre to the Node

There are also Fixed Wireless and Sky Muster Satellite but these are limited by the technology.

I recently noticed that the Telstra Communication Pits (now owned by NBN)  in my suburb had all been identified and marked with painted arrows. This piqued my curiosity and I searched the NBN site for a reason. I found this https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/fttp-upgrade-with-higher-speed-tiers .   Certain areas with FTTC & FTTN are being upgraded to FTTP. It is unclear, but it seems that Fibre will be connected to the outside pit and if you want the fibre into the house, you may have to arrange with your retailer (Telstra / Optus etc) for a high speed plan and either :-

  1. Pay for the installation – Said to be $200 (Seems too cheap);or
  2. Enter into a fixed term contract for a high speed tier (More likely) and/or;
  3. Pay extra with the plan for the connection.

BUT IT IS NOT CLEAR.

My suburb is on the list to be upgraded to FTTP.

As my current FTTN will provide speeds for the 100/40 20 plan (100Mbps down / 40 20Mbps up ## See Update) which is the minimum speed to qualify for the FTTP upgrade, I have altered my existing 50/20 plan to 100/20. It does not cost much extra – $15 per month.

But I must say that I have had no issues with my current connection and plan. In fact, I just did a speed check and my current speeds are 55 down / 19.1 up. Also I can’t remember any dropouts or problems (touch wood).  The 50/20 plan is probably enough for most people but I have more money than sense.

The people I know who have FTTP all have the equipment in the garage. However apparently you can put it almost anywhere inside, so I intend to have mine mounted next to my modem router set up.

I have also registered for NBN updates via Email. Now I will wait.

 

UPDATE   – UPLOAD SPEED

I made a mistake with the Upload Speed.  Even though I could get 40Mbps up, the plan has a speed cap of 20 Mbps up.  It seems to be the same for the next plan – 250/20.  I recall that it used to be 40 Mbps up, but that must have changed.

These are my speeds now:

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This article provides some more information https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2022/03/nbn-fibre-upgrade-eligibility/

NBN Links

https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/fttp-upgrade-with-higher-speed-tiers

NOTE! On the above link, you can check your address AND, after you input the address, a section becomes visible to provide an Email to be kept informed.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/the-nbn-project/australias-digital-backbone-is-evolving

https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/fttp-upgrade-with-higher-speed-tiers

 

NBN – THOUGHTS AND SUMMARY

Note 1: The previous 3 posts are for people who are still waiting for the NBN particularly in parts of the Sunshine Coast and some Brisbane suburbs. For my friends in North Queensland (Mackay and Cairns) who have had FTTP for years, laugh all you want. I have a long memory, and I am thinking of selling all my extra beds so that you  will have to sleep on the floor next time you want to visit me to escape your “tropical paradise” – you know – where rain is measured in feet/ metres, you can’t swim in the sea due to deadly marine stingers, crocodiles fill the creeks and rivers, there are cyclones AND, most importantly, NO SURF. So There!!  unamused-face_1f612

Note 2: Another thing that I have noted is that out of all of the people I know who have FTTP, none were concerned at all with speed. Not a single one selected the top speed and almost all remained with their existing retailer (usually Telstra). Apart from one, they just went onto the 25Mbps tier with their current provider and this was because it cost about the same and was suggested by the retailer. The 25Mbps speed tier was much faster and provided sufficient bandwidth for a normal family. Most people only want a reliable connection, be able to use a few devices at once and to stream movies.

Telstra later upgraded 25 Mbps customers to the 50Mbps tier and most did not know or care as long as it did not cost more.

The only exception involved a Fixed Wireless connection, and they selected the lowest tier with capped usage. They also decided to retain their copper phone connection which is permitted with Fixed Wireless. They are in line of sight with the transmission tower and could get the top tier but made their choice based on price and previous limited usage patterns.

Naturally, teenage sons with gaming consoles wanted the top speed. However, as they were unable or unwilling to get jobs and pay for it themselves, as far as I know, they were left wanting!

Note 3: Most people understand the motive behind a lot of the negative press coverage and comment about NBN. I for one would love to get FTTP, but wish as I might, it is not going to happen and I am more than happy with my new  FTTN service.

Apart from a few instances, media reports and other complaints are, more often than not, issues caused by the retailer not NBN despite what the misleading headlines might indicate.

The decision to proceed with cheaper alternatives to FTTP is one thing, but clearly not all that important to many people – See Note 2. As I said, I wish I could get FTTP but, out of all the people I know consisting of various age groups, skills, education and incomes from a young Doctor to old retired codgers like me, I am the only one who cares (excluding teenage gamer sons).

Many of the reported problems relate to people not getting the speeds they pay for, but, in almost all cases, this is not NBN. Rather, it is usually caused by retailers not buying sufficient bandwidth to meet demand at peak times. The government regulator has penalized some retailers including Optus and Telstra and, combined with an NBN wholesale price reduction, it is becoming less of an issue. In addition, retailers are now required to provide expected minimum peak hour speeds.

SUMMARY

WARNING DO NOT respond to any phone calls about the NBN. They are SCAMS , particularly the “Robo Call” with a well spoken recorded voice that says it is from the NBN and they have been trying urgently to get in touch. If you don’t press 1 or 2, your NBN will be cut off. Reports say that if you do press 1 or 2 they try to get banking and personal details to steal money and identity.

You contact a retailer –  NBN does NOT contact you.

You will know when NBN connection is near as your letter box will be filled with advertisements from (legitimate) phone and internet retailers.

However, the best thing to do is go to the NBN site and type your address into the “Check your address” section  https://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-business/check-your-address. (If you don’t have the internet get a friend to do it.)

When the official NBN site says “You’re ready to connect” you make contact with a retailerNEVER the NBN and NEVER talk to someone calling you!

There are any number of retailers listed on the NBN site https://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-business/check-your-address/choose-a-provider

You can shop around but, if you do, make sure that you are comparing the same plans. For example, with phone calls be sure that all plans are offering the same service. My Telstra phone bundle includes all calls to Australian numbers including mobiles but similar plans from others that I looked at appeared at first to cost $10 per month less. However, after reading the fine print I discovered you need an additional $10 per month calling pack for calls to mobiles which made the prices roughly the same (within $1 per month). An increasing number of people only have mobiles so this is important.

You can, of course get rid of the home phone and rely on your mobile. Plenty of people do but I am in the age group where my friends of similar age still use home phones. I did consider an internet only plan, but some of my mates don’t even have computers let alone mobiles – “A mobile phone ! Why? I already have a phone at home, do I look like a Yuppie?”  contempt

I decided to stay with Telstra as the cost from other major companies is similar, I really don’t have any complaints and I like the new “Smart” modems that have an automatic cut over to the mobile phone system if the NBN lines go down.

Read the fine print and compare Apples to Apples.

As I said, I decided to stay with my current retailer and most people I know have done the same.

If you need a new modem your retailer will let you know, and you usually get one free (or for a small delivery fee) with a contract.

Since FTTP is a thing of the past and Fixed Wireless has limited availability,  with FTTC, FTTB & FTTN, you  can easily self-install. Alternatively, for a fee (which is sometimes refunded if you sign up for a long-term contract), the retailer can send someone out to install it.

Remember, apart from Fixed Wireless, eventually the old system will be cut off and even if you only have a phone and no internet, you still need to go over to NBN. A friend has a phone service only (no internet) and, for less than he was previously paying, he signed up for a phone only plan and it was installed for him with the installation cost refunded for signing up to a 24 month contract.

PHONES AND OTNER INFO.

The main thing to remember is that phone service and internet come in via the modem, so the phone now has to be connected to the modem. If you have existing multiple phone plugs in various rooms, they will not work for your phone. With FTTN and FTTC you will probably be able to plug the modem into any of them but not phones.

Most people simply locate their NBN compatible phone next to or near the modem and plug it in. Alternatively, they buy a phone with wireless extensions. The main base station is located next to the modem and wireless extensions placed around the house. Or, if you don’t mind paying the small cost involved, do what I did and have a new cable installed to run from an existing wall mounted phone (or other convenient location) to an outlet near the modem.

For for devices like fax machines, medical alarms and security alarms etc., you will have to go to the NBN site for instructions. In my case, the security alarm company was on top of the issue and, well before the NBN came anywhere near us, they replaced their old phone line system with a mobile phone-based system.

CONCLUSION

  • Hang up on all phone calls about NBN. They are scams and if not – too bad.
  • The change over is easy and if you don’t think you can do it yourself, the retailers fall over themselves to help.
  • One thing that I and my friends have noticed, is that you can usually get a cheaper deal than before even with your current retailer. It is amazing what a bit of real competition will do!

NBN CONNECTED

I have been connected and well within the time and date advised.

The internet went down for a few minutes, stopped and started a bit then came up on NBN. The phone took about an hour or so  before it started to work but it all works now. I unplugged the phone a couple of times but I think that if I had waited all I needed to do was unplug the cable from the phone outlet to the PSTN input on the modem.

OLD ADSL SPEED CHECK

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NEW NBN 50Mbps TIER

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and to make sure I did it again on another speed check site.

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MAXIMUN LINE SPEED – FROM MODEM

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It looks like I can get the top tier of 100 down 40 up. I will think about it and make up my mind whether to  upgrade.

In the meantime I am going to go mad downloading stuff.

Downloaded an iTunes HD movie. Before it took hours – now 20 minutes.

AND  XBox Live “Games with Gold” is next. I don’t like the games in the first half of March – BUT after 16th, I like “Plants Vs Zombies – Garden Warfare 2”.

I have only ever tried to download one game previously and it took 3 days (including pauses every time I wanted to use the internet) – BUT NOW  -WOW!

Next thing is to upgrade Netflix.

NBN Continued

Please refer to my post dated 11th Feb 19 – NBN.

NOTES

(a) NBN abbreviations in order of performance :

  1.   FTTP  – Fibre to the Premises
  2. HFC     – Hybrid Fibre Coaxial                                                                              FTTC    – Fibre to the Curb   (HFC & FTTC are about equal)
  3. FTTB   – Fibre to the Building
  4. FTTN   – Fibre to the Node

(b)  The friend mentioned in the prior NBN post has FTTC, other people I know in North Queensland have FTTP and another friend in Brisbane will be getting HFC.  I will be getting FTTN. After everyone is connected I will try and find out what each of them think about their versions.)

(c)  I looked for and found my “Node”. This is important with FTTN as the further away you are the slower the speed. Using Google maps I have determined that I am 330 metres from the Node.

Therefore I should be able to get the NBN 50 speed tier – (50Mbps down 20Mbps up)  I hope!!

NODE

NBN Continued:

I have been checking the NBN web site daily and at long last on Friday 22nd February my address showed up as “You’re ready to connect”.

Consequently I wasted no time in contacting my phone/internet provider (Telstra) to arrange things. The friend mentioned in my previous post (also with Telstra) made contact by phone but I decided to use their “chat” facility.

The process was straight forward and took about 30 minutes. (It was about the same by phone.)

My identity was confirmed by the usual method of personal information comparison with my account. However, I am very pleased to report that, without asking for my number, they also sent an authentication code to my mobile phone using the number listed on my account.

During the process I was sent an order number that you use to track progress.

Within 2 working days I received a confirmation Email stating that a new modem was on its way (see below it is only a conversion kit – I did not read it correctly) to be delivered in the next couple of days and my NBN connection would go “live” in about a week  – 8 working days from first contact.

This sentence in the email intrigues me:

An NBN technician will complete work in your street, to connect you to the NBN. Your home phone or internet may be briefly disrupted during the work. You won’t need to be home.

My friend who was connected to FTTC, just phoned up and 2 days later when his new modem was delivered, he simply plugged it in and it worked.

I really don’t know how it works but it looks like work has to be done at the NBN Node and / or the Telstra Pillar  for connection via FTTN that is not needed with FTTC. The NBN Nodes seem to be located near existing Telstra Pillars and that is the case with my Node / Telstra Pillar.

I will put this post up now and add to it when I receive the modem conversion kit and again to report when the connection is complete – hopefully with a screen shot of my new very much increased  internet speed.

Here’s hoping things continue to proceed smoothly (touch wood).

28th Feb 2019

I made a mistake and did not read the tracking site correctly. I am not getting a new modem. During the initial contact, I advised that I already had a new Telstra Smart Modem and did not need a new one. They must have listened to what I said and the tracking site was altered to state that I was getting a conversion kit – not a modem.

The conversion kit has arrived and the instructions are easy to understand. The kit only consists of a spare cable and an instruction pamphlet.

I previously engaged a technician to run a new cable from my wall phone to the modem so my phone is already connected to the modem. The Telstra Smart Modem provides for the transition period.  While the current phone/ADSL connection is in place, you simply run a separate cable from the phone outlet on the splitter to a PSTN socket on the modem with the phone connected to the modem. When the NBN is activated, the PSTN cable, and any other phones connected to other outlets, are to be removed. Then, according to the pamphlet, it takes about 5 to 10 minutes for a dial tone.

The pamphlet also confirms that the ADSL line out from a splitter can continue to be used. See previous post. My friend successfully did this and it looks like my external splitter will not have to be removed as long as I continue to use the existing assigned internal  ADSL outlet.

Now I wait for the final step in one week when the connection goes live.

NBN

At long last this part of the state is (slowly) getting connected to the NBN.

I am getting FTTN (Fibre to the Node) and, according to the NBN Web Site, it is due this month. I am hoping that the lines will support the  NBN 50 (50Mbps down) speed which will seem very fast compared to my current top “speed” of 2.0 to  2.5 Mbps down and up is measured in Kilobits.

A friend was lucky enough to get FTTC (Fibre to the Curb)and he got connected last week. FTTC will support the top speed of NBN 100 (100Mbps down) but he opted for NBN 50 which is more than enough for his needs.

He decided to stay with Telstra and contacted them by phone to make the arrangements. He reports that they were quick and efficient and a new “Smart” modem  was delivered within 48 hours. Then it was just a matter of disconnecting the old modem and plugging in the new one.

After changing his WiFi password on his devices it was “all systems go”.  A speed test showed he was getting 45Mbps down and 18 Mbps up.

TELEPHONE

For the record his fairly old phone works after being plugged into the NBN modem. It is not one of those original Telstra Phones that don’t need to be plugged into the power, but still it is probably well over a decade old.

SPLITTERS

He only has one phone line into his house and it has the old “610” type socket.

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Previously he used a splitter to connect to the RJ11 sockets on his phone and modem.

For the NBN he left the splitter in place and connected the new Smart Modem to the splitter using the ADSL Plug.

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The speed test confirmed that this did not affect performance but it is important not to plug into the “Phone” outlet as, apparently, it is the Splitter’s “Phone” line that has the filter.

This is good to know as I have an outside central splitter that was installed by my Home Alarm company.

The Alarm company has since moved over to the Mobile Phone system but at least I know that I can just keep using the current internet outlet and it won’t be necessary to get the outside splitter removed.