NBN SCAM CALLS

I received 3 phone calls yesterday supposedly from NBN trying to arrange for a “technician” to call with a new modem and advising that the “old” modem/connection box will stop working in 7 days.

With any new scam, I try to lead them on to find out what the angle is. Alas, I am not as skilled as those YouTube people who can lead them on for hours.

By what I can make out, they must be calling numbers in suburbs earmarked for the FTTP roll out. Refer my previous post https://whysun.com/computers-and-the-internet/nbn-upgrade-to-fttp/

First up, you can hardly understand them – thick foreign accents. But they start by telling you that your old modem / NBN Connection Box will stop working in 7 days and you need a new model. Then they try to arrange a time for a technician to call with the new modem. I haven’t managed to get past this point, but I bet that once they have made a time for a “technician” to call they will then start asking for money / personal information / banking information.

REMEMBER NBN WILL NOT CALL YOU See https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/protect-yourself-from-scams – From this page

· nbn will not call to confirm an appointment and ask for payment to secure your booking, or ask you to pay the postage costs for new hardware.

If you want to be kept up to date, subscribe to the NBN news letter using this link

https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/fttp-upgrade-with-higher-speed-tiers

Under – Check to see if you can upgrade to nbn’s fast fibre today – Type in your address and check – after which, a section will appear for an email address.

REMINDER – HANG UP, DELETE, DON’T RESPOND and BLOCK

I have written before about being cautious with unsolicited phone calls and Emails (and in fact any and all forms of contact)  – Refer the reports detailed in:

https://whysun.com/uncategorized/solo-network-pty-ltd-report-no-3/

https://whysun.com/uncategorized/solo-network-continued/

https://whysun.com/uncategorized/solo-network-02-8378-7903/

These problems, if anything, are getting worse. I regularly get scam calls on my home phone and, even though I block the numbers, it makes little difference. I have to laugh. My home phone has space for hundreds of blocked numbers but it gets filled up after a while and I have to delete and start over.

This post is a reminder of the golden rule:

NEVER EVER RESPOND IN ANY WAY TO UNSOLICITED APPROACHES – EMAILS –  PHONE CALLS – SMS – KNOCKS AT THE DOOR.

If you want somethingYOU initiate the contact and only with established, known and reputable organisations and YOU get the phone number from the phone book or Email address from an independent source  OR PREFERABLY  visit their place of business.

AND as well as never clicking on links in Emails, I would add links in SMS and all types of messages EVEN IF the message/Email appears to come from someone you know.

I received one of those recorded voice phone calls to-day. It was from “Amazon” but it would be the same Phishing scam as all the others –  credit cards/ NBN etc.

As it happens I do have an Amazon account and if I was worried, which I wasn’t, I would still hang up on the call and log into my Amazon account to check. Always hang up on the call immediately and, if worried, log into the account and check. Remember, NBN never makes contact with you.

The latest worry is the so called “Flubot” SMS scam. A good explanation is in this Gizmodo article. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/08/flubot-malware-text-scam/

This is the Australian Government site regarding the matter:  https://www.acma.gov.au/articles/2021-08/acma-warns-sms-malware-scams

So far it only affects Android phones as they allow Apps to be downloaded from outside the Play Store.  This is called Sideloading.

Apple iPhones only allow Apps from the App Store BUT DON’T TAKE ANY CHANCES – delete and block. Pressure is being applied to Apple in both the US and EU to allow sideloading of Apps on iPhone. Let’s hope that this is not successful and if you have an Android phone, only load Apps from the Play Store; HOWEVER, don’t get caught in the first place.

HANG UP, DELETE, DON’T RESPOND and BLOCK numbers if you can.

Reputable companies don’t cold call anymore.

This is the government scamwatch article Missed call or voicemail (Flubot) scams | Scamwatch

Solo Network Pty Ltd – Report No 3

Refer the two previous posts about Solo Network Pty Ltd.

This company is still not on the list of NBN providers – https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/service-providers

Solo Network Pty Ltd has, at the date of this post, now sent the person in this case a Bill, an Overdue Notice and another letter that was returned unopened. He/she has written to the company via registered post stating that, as no plan/contract was received no agreement was entered into and also as no services have been provided, he/she will not be paying and a complaint has been lodged with The Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman (TIO).

Thanks to the information provided by “Bev” in her post on “Should I Answer” dated 18th Dec 2019, the complaint to the TIO may get Solo Network to stop contacting and sending bills.  Thank you Bev and also thank you for the reference to this blog. (I wondered why I got a sudden spike in views.)

This is the “Overdue Notice”

Blocked Overdue

Hopefully, with the formal complaint to the TIO, the matter will be bought to an end.  The thing that would worry me is if Solo Network obtains a judgement against this person in a NSW court. I wonder how hard that would be and what proof of debt the courts require. He/she is aware of this and will be sure to open any correspondence from a court and not hesitate to consult a solicitor and/or the police.

NOTE

Bev (the contributor to “Should I Answer” mentioned above) provided information for this article in The Wangaratta Chronicle  – Unfortunately The Wangaratta Chronicle is behind a paywall but I got this from pressreader.com  –  https://www.pressreader.com/australia/wangaratta-chronicle/20191220/281565177660064   (Beware all suspect cold calls to switch providers TIO top tips. 20th Dec 2019 )

Solo Network – CONTINUED

Please refer to previous post – SOLO NETWORK PTY LTD – 02 8378 7903

The person referred to in the previous post has now received a bill from Solo Network Pty Ltd ABN 19 633 950 428

A few points to clarify.

  • The bill certainly looks official with an ABN.
  • The services listed in the bill have not been provided.
  • No written contract was ever received and consequently no formal signed agreement was entered into.
  • Moreover, the victim was only ever interested in a phone service yet has been “billed” for an internet service despite making it very clear that he/she does not have any device that could make use of an internet service.

ABN (Australian Business Number)

An ABN is not difficult to apply for and having one does not mean much more than that the applicant is carrying on a business in Australia and customers do not have to apply the 47% withholding tax.

This is the entry for Solo Network Pty Ltd ABN 19633950428 https://abr.business.gov.au/ABN/View?abn=19633950428

Note that is has only been active since June 2019 and is not registered for GST.

ACN (Australian Company Number)

The ABN search confirms that Solo Network Pty Ltd is registered and the ACN is 633950428.

An ACN just means that the company has been registered. This is the entry for Solo Network Pty Ltd ACN 633950428

https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchText=633950428&searchType=OrgAndBusNm&_adf.ctrl-state=15abbjvws1_15

Note that it was registered in June 2019.

NBN

Page 3 of the bill (not shown) contains a charge for NBN Broadband & Voice yet, as at the date of this post, this company does not appear on the NBN site list of providers https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/service-providers

WEB SITE  (UPDATE OCT 2020 – This site no longer exists)

A search now produces this site-

http://www.solonetwork.com.au

When the previous post was written, the person on the phone provided an incorrect URL despite repeated requests to confirm it including spelling it out using a phonetic alphabet.

This site produces no useful information on a “Who.is” search, does not have an SSL certificate, is not very professional, many links do not work and the “NBN DISCLAIMER” is “interesting”.

COMMENTS

The bill “looks” genuine. It is printed professionally with genuine ABN / ACN, and various payment options like B Pay.

The only problem is that a written contract was never received nor entered into and no services were ever delivered.

Going on reports on the sites mentioned in the previous post, the next steps will likely involve demands for payment combined with threats to proceed to the courts.

It is easy to understand why people can be deceived and/or bullied into paying.

The other concerning thing is, if you search Commonwealth Government (ACCC) and NSW and QLD Fair Trading/Consumer affairs sites for Solo Network, nothing comes up.

However, if you do a search for the phone number, numerous sites have reports and warnings.

SUMMARY

Until the company appears on the NBN web site in the list of providers, I would not even engage with them.

In addition, it only has a PO Box for an address, payments are made to another company, the web site is uninspiring, the bill is for services neither provided nor in the case of the internet, needed. Most importantly, they managed to post out a bill promptly but not a contract and no formal agreement was signed.

According to the Queensland Legal Aid site, – For agreements made over the phone,  a copy (of the contract) must be given to you in person, by post or electronically (if agreed), within 5 business days.

SOLO NETWORK PTY LTD – 02 8378 7903

Just a reminder – NEVER EVER respond to unsolicited Emails or Phone Calls.

Recently an older person I know engaged with an unsolicited phone caller and divulged personal information that should never be provided to unknown people. I will not identify the individual. He/she is not unintelligent but is elderly, has no computer and lives alone with only a land line phone.

My friends and I are no spring chickens, but we all have computers with an understanding of the risks pertaining to scams. We keep in touch via Email and pass on warnings. For example, I was quick to warn everyone in my group about the phone “Phishing” scam where a recorded voice states that she is from NBN and service is about to be terminated unless you respond immediately. The main danger with this particular call is that the recorded female voice has an Australian Accent as opposed to most of the others that use people with thick foreign accents.

We all know that we are not important enough to warrant personal contact from NBN, Microsoft, The Tax Department, Telstra Technical Department etc, and most legitimate companies now no longer cold call.

Moreover, we are all too well aware that caller ID is meaningless. I now only answer calls from numbers stored in my contacts. (As soon as I initiate a relationship with a business or tradesman, I immediately put their number in my contacts.)

I do sometimes answer calls from local numbers, but I never engage, which is a bit of a pity as local worthwhile charities and organisations still use cold calling. In these cases, I politely explain that, as I have no way of verifying the authenticity of the call, I am unable to respond or continue the call and ask that my number be removed from their call list.

A summary of what transpired is:

Earlier in October, unsolicited contact was made via phone from a male with a strong accent but using an Australian sounding first name.

The caller ID was – NSW (Sydney) number 02 8378 7903.

The caller said he was from Solo Network or Solo Networks, (caller was difficult to understand). He stated that his company is an authorised NBN provider and was taking over older people’s land lines as Telstra only wanted high value and business clients and was “ripping off” small customers. Solo Network(s) could offer a much better phone “deal” at about half the price of the current Telstra contract.

He asked for the “usual” details to confirm identity plus information to qualify for a pensioner discount.

The caller used name and address details that could easily be obtained from the phone book to establish a rapport and gave repeated assurances that full details, including a copy of the contract, would be sent immediately by mail.

Date of Birth and pension card number were disclosed to confirm identity and get the pensioner discount, but a request for credit card details was initially refused.

Some days later in early November, contact was made again and, to enable the matter to proceed, the caller asked for and was given the related Telstra Account number and, for a further discount, the Credit Card Number including the CVV.

Soon after the person’s phone stopped working.

After a few days without a phone and as nothing had turned up in the mail, he/she became suspicious and sought my assistance.

To summarise a lengthy exercise, it was discovered that:

  • The victim’s phone had been disconnected (it is assumed by Solo Network using the information disclosed to them.)
  • Solo Network is, as at the date of this post, not on the list of NBN providers on the NBN web site.
  • The 1300 number provided as a contact was never answered. The caller ID O2 83787903 was answered but it was difficult to obtain reliable information.
  • A provided web address of https://www.solonetworks.com.au does not exist. The person on the phone was asked a number of times to confirm this URL with the spelling repeated using the phonetic alphabet. When she was told that no such address existed, she replied that the site “might be down at present”.
  • Google search and variations of above URL also produced no results.
  • However, at least two phone number reverse lookup sites had entries for the 02 phone number and mentioned Solo Network(s) in an unfavourable light

https://www.reverseaustralia.com/lookup/0283787903/

https://au.shouldianswer.net/phone-number/0283787903

  • Telstra confirmed that the person’s phone service had been terminated.

CONSEQUENCES

Despite promises from Solar Network(s) that a new phone service would be set up “soon” and a contract with full details is “in the mail”, I had the unpleasant task of informing him/her that, without knowing anything about this telemarketer, caution should be exercised and it would be prudent to terminate any further dealings with them.

Therefore, I recommended that the following immediate action be taken:

  1. Call at the bank (in person as he/she now has no phone) and cancel the credit card and, if possible, flag his/her accounts for possible identity theft.
  2. Call at the Department of Social Security and inform them and get a flag/PIN on the pension card
  3. Contact Telstra (using my, a friend’s or relative’s phone), admit what has happened, and get the phone re-connected. Also get a new phone only plan with a flat fee for all calls within Australia including calls to mobiles. Telstra has such a plan for $55 that would probably be less than the Solo Network(s) offer considering it was for $43 per month PLUS call charges.
  4. Then call again at my place and use my computer to record it on the ACCC Scamwatch site and follow the procedure on https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/get-help/whis/here-to-get-help
  5. Immediately report any future associated fraud to Police. Explained in detail what to look out for in relation to this – loans and credit cards being taken out in his/her name etc.
  6. Warn all friends.

I also played for him/her some of the videos on the ACCC site- https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/about-scamwatch/tools-resources/videos

While most of us would like to think that we would not have been caught by something like this, we would all know elderly people who are at risk.

Naturally the victim is very embarrassed, and his/her first impulse was to cover it up. I explained that he/she is not to blame, and it is not certain that it is a scam. Nevertheless, keeping silent is the worst thing to do. The best thing is to tell and warn as many people as possible.

I took time to explain about scams in general and in particular not to respond to any unsolicited phone calls, mail offers or knocks on the door.

The “GOLDEN RULE” – YOU initiate the contact and only with established, known and reputable organisations and YOU get the phone number from the phone book and/or visit their place of business.

I offered help to go to The Good Guys and buy a phone with an inbuilt contacts function. The Uniden SS E45W is ideal with space for 200 contacts, big buttons, special loud ring and call blocking. The Good Guys have them for $89. After all contacts are transferred from his/her paper-based record to the phone, I told him/her to only pick up on calls from contacts or known phone numbers. All other calls should be allowed to go to message bank. Most scammers won’t leave a message but if messages are left, there will be time to investigate before returning the call.

This is the report put on the Australian Government’s ACCC Scamwatch Site

Contacted by phone and offered cheaper telephone plan. The caller stated his company (Solo Network(s)) is NBN authorised and they are taking over land lines for old people because Telstra is only interested in large and commercial customers. They said that I did not have a contract with Telstra and was free to change. For ID purposes plus a pensioner discount, they requested various details and I provided DOB, Pension card number but at that time I refused to provide my Visa card no. They said they would post out a contract. (I do not have internet/email.) Nothing happened and later on the 4th Nov they phoned again asked for my Telstra Account number and they also said that they could provide a 10% discount for using Visa. I then gave them the Telstra Account number and my Visa Card number including the CCV. My phone stopped working on the next Thursday 7th. I then realised something was amiss and sought help from a friend. Called 02 8378 7903 from friend’s phone and received assurances that contract was in the mail and my new phone would be operational “soon”. On request they advised URL for their site which was non-existent, but when questioned claimed that their site might be down.

My friend then became suspicious and further internet searches revealed that Solo Network did not have a web site, was not on the NBN list and was on a number of warning sites. I then took action to cancel my credit card, notify Dept of Social Services and Telstra to get phone back.